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Cheryl Floyd

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  1. Cheryl Floyd

    Reading the classical educators

    WOW. I thought I remembered reading that Plato was the first to coin the term "myth" and its purpose being that of "clothing a truth". Literature was a better embodiment of their ideals than maxims. Do you think these days, a lot of children's literature is too preachy? The truth isn't clothed, it's advertised, it's dressed for war with immorality, or worldview, or threat, or fancy.
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    Distracted from Delight

    I came across this article by Josh Gibbs about the home being necessary to a classical education. https://www.circeinstitute.org/blog/classical-education-demands-classical-home Even though he’s referring to the disconnect between home and the classical school, are there ways in which we at home detract and distract from our own efforts to inculcate classical education, virtue, and schole’? I know I can over-schedule, then “fail” because I wasn’t realistic with my expectations of our time, attention, and abilities. I don’t apply that work ethic Josh refers to in our housework as a team, a habit, a concrete opportunity to prepare to work abstractly with diligence. I do try to make sure most of what we watch and read can be approached with humane observations. What about your day-to-day practices?
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    Distracted from Delight

    That is great reminder. I love Weil's point about attention as well. And it is so true about being on the internet or carrying around a phone at all. It's like we are constantly tempted to think we could be "doing" something better at any moment than what we are actually doing if we just browse our phone. I want my kids to look outside while we are driving, not down at a screen. But I do the same thing when I'm the passenger, because you know, I'm reading classical things... ick.
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    Liturgical and Embodied Learning

    What would be your purpose or need or goal for involving her in the decision-making of her days and weeks? How would that help embody virtues proper to being a student at her level of maturity, or help with the liturgy of your lives? Does she recognize a need for liturgy or understand what it is in the home or in learning? How do you define it?
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    Liturgical and Embodied Learning

    I'm interested in hearing how you would apply management techniques. Please do share if/when you come up with your ideas and applications!
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    Distracted from Delight

    I'm coming back to this idea of how we unintentionally distract our children from what we want them to delight in - those true, good, and beautiful things right? I know I can spend more concentrated time thinking about work, doing work, and needing less time to use up physical energy. But I have noticed a few things as an adult human being that are true because I'm human, not because I'm an adult: I need to get up and move around throughout the day. Sometimes I need to do a small amount of strenuous exercise. This helps me to be more attentive because I've gotten ride of pent-up energy, and I've engaged my energy to come to the forefront. Rather than making me more hyper, it calms me down, even though it wakes me up. Sometimes I just need to think about something different for a while, use a different set of thinking skills. When I come back to the original work I seem to be able to tackle it more thoroughly. If I spend too much time looking at a screen and clicking around on various articles, blogs, posts, and game spots, my eyes do not want to focus on one singular work, especially if it's long and complicated. And by complicated, I just mean it takes more time and attention than the quick reads and flitting about I do online. It short-circuits my ability to follow a train of thought past a few steps. Online I can click on something different if I don't like what I'm reading, get bored, or don't understand it. But this becomes an intellectual habit. I've noticed the more I spend in one book, or on one work, for an extended time period, and finish it, the better I get at following through and understanding other involved work. If these observations are true for us as adults, though maybe to a lesser extent as we grow up, what are the implications for children, or for us as we teach children?
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    Reading the classical educators

    Thank you for pointing me to Jack and Jill as well. It is so helpful to read educational ideas embodied through story.
  8. A horse is a horse of course! Just replace the captions with: "beginning of the school year" and "end of first semester" Do you set yourself up with big ideals and end up puttering to the finish line, or not even making it to the finish line (because you began with a marathon for your goal)? Well I do. I tend to have all these grandiose plans in August I've concocted over the summer after attending amazing conferences, perusing fabulous curriculum catalogs, and conversing with all my wonderful homeschooling friends, and then by December I am burned out and my children are wondering away from the table by 11am. Even after twenty years! I'm contemplating what is the tension between ideals, ideas, and actionable plans. Is it normal, is it ok to have goals that we might not (probably won't) meet? It feels defeating to me. But, today, looking at this horse, I thought about how you build endurance and muscle mass: you fail. Over and over and over. The last two push-ups are the hardest and the least well done - they look like that left hoof - or they ought to be if the push-ups are going to build strength. You have to run the last bit of your time in over-time, barely moving, telling your body: next time we'll need to go this long, but stronger. And your body responds! But! We can also push too far and make ourselves sick or hurt. You can pull a muscle, you can faint from running too long! This is what we can do to ourselves and not hate the process. But, what if it is done to us? What about what we do to others? If I made a goal of making and finishing that horse, and no one was grading me, or creating my schedule, I think I'd be happy I finished and would assess what I needed to do differently for the next attempt. But if someone was doing it to me, setting the pace, creating the curriculum, I might resent them. I might see less of what I needed to improve, and more of how they pushed me too fast, or didn't teach me what I needed to know to keep going. My point is, it is true, stretching our children to sit a little longer, and listen a little more, and try a little harder builds endurance and ability. But because we are an outside force, I am wondering if we actually have to take that into consideration so that we don't also build resentment, or apathy. Do we need to win their will, and if so what does that look like? I am convinced, if this is needed, it has to happen at a young age. What are your thoughts on beginning and end goals and work ethic for ourselves versus for our children? Is there a difference - not because of age but because of "agency" - if I understand that term correctly? In what ways can we win their will to work in ways that build endurance?
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    Starting strong finishing...

    We all understand and experience it daily on all social platforms. I look up old things I wrote years ago - years and years ago! I'll open them up and edit them every once in a while, and I STILL find typos! So a few hours or days is completely understandable. .... and sometimes... I swear... it's my COMPUTER or the PHONE. I swear I've seen the keys CHANGE before my EYES into something I did NOT hit... or words that I wrote disappear! They're watching us, trying to make us think we're crazy! And terrible with grammar!
  10. I agree with Dr. Perin, but I am also online for a humanities degree at Faulkner University because they have a heavy classical emphasis and a Great Books program. University of Dallas is also growing their Classical Education degrees. If you are interested and want to, look for programs emphasizing the classics/great books. Unfortunately education as a degree has not been classically modified in enough colleges. Perhaps that what we or our children will do in the future!
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    Reading the classical educators

    Somewhere recently I read something to the effect that Little Women or Jo Boys or both, were excellent education/parenting books. Agreed? I haven't read either, and I've only seen the Wynona Ryder movie.
  12. I agree that they both can be speaking to the heart and both have that as their goal. But perhaps Rallens would not presume she could know a student's motives, as Tripp seems to imply he can get at. And I think both would agree that outward behavior modification is not the goal. But surely neither would say, therefore no structure or liturgy is necessary or beneficial. Structure brings security and can eliminate a LOT of behavior issues. How the day/class is structured as well as the elements. Her other video talks about how she transformed her "tests" and assessments right? It's not just about the order of the class but the elements as well right?
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    What is your background?

    I understand that feeling. My first conference twenty years ago was overwhelming, and there weren't even as many choices! But I really enjoyed the encouragement and ideas I gained from the talks. I don't really look at curriculum any more at this point because I know what I want or I already have it. I get suggestions from friends rather than peruse a catalog. But I still enjoy the conferences. I meet other moms and dads who have a wealth of experience and ideas that are helpful. I love the talks for the same reasons, plus I become re-inspired. It's a great "get-away" even though it's "work-related". Blogs, podcasts, and forums like these also help me stay encouraged and equipped throughout the year. Do you listen to any podcasts, or read any blogs you've found especially helpful rather than overwhelming?
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    Do You Suffer from Scholé Guilt?

    Thank you for pointing me toward this post. It is a great reminder that active learning of skills is essential to our educational endeavors. I think I have to work at assessing what might be the contributing factors to my child's difficulty with a lesson. Are we getting up at weird times/going to sleep at a good time? Are we eating things that contribute to low or high blood sugar? Is the lesson coming at a time of day that either or both of those other factors affect my child's ability to concentrate? Have my child moved enough before the lesson? Is the lesson itself just hard? Is my child ready for this lesson, do we need to review some things, or take a break from this material for a day or a week? Is there a character issue at work? If so, what other area could I use to orchestrate a "lesson" that will cause the character problem to come to light? Or am I not engaging in enough schole` moments to justify the labor of this material. I tend to have schole` guilt over not engaging in schole` enough because we "don't have time"!! When I don't maintain a good schedule, and purposefully included schole` moments, they get lost because I worry over the "active learning".
  15. I like what Joshua Gibbs says in his Great Books course: Classical Education is submitting to all the best mankind has had to offer. Something like that. I would tag onto that, that not only are there works of writing, painting, music, poetry, etc... but there is a way to approach the learning and appreciating of those things, knowing what is true, good, and beautiful and learning how to love them. These are the seven liberal arts that enable us to perceive what is true, good, and beautiful and teach us how to love what we ought. As Christians we have lost the value of tradition. We engage in the "new and the novel" at church and in education. But there is nothing new under the sun as far as how to learn what is true, good, and beautiful and what we ought to love. Christian Classical Education addresses these issues.
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    Distracted from Delight

    Thank you for your response, Karen. I agree that when I watch or read things with my kids, we talk about the choices and consequences of the characters. Every thing we read and watch isn't some literary mathematically morally problem and solution. That isn't reality. It's not even biblical. Jonah doesn't end with a harmony. It's almost like a sentence that ends with a preposition and no object, or a minor chord that doesn't resolve. And we see it and feel it so that we know it isn't ok or good. We shouldn't be like Jonah.
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    Let's Chat about Memory Work

    These are great ideas about memory, memorizing, commonplacing, and catechism. What do you think the difference is in application and purpose of each? Is one more appropriate for K-3? Is one inappropriate? Are there ways to begin preparing littles for advanced memory practices? Or can all of them be done at this age and then they will advance in them with maturity and instruction?
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    Homeschooling and self-care

    One of Father Tom Hopko's 55 Maxim's of the Christian Life is have a wholesome hobby and do it! So, one that I am working on is choreographed exercise! REFIT is just about in any city across the nation (around the world in areas) and it is a great get-away from the house while benefiting me through exercise. But, because it's choreographed movement to positive songs, I have to engage my mind to remember the motions. This allows me to not think about other things while I fully concentrate on this one thing. Completing the workout of my body and mind gives me a great burst of confidence and energy. The company motto includes building community so you get to know a wonderful group of people in the process. All in an hour! I go 2-3 times a week while my children are at their tae kwon do class. They do have a youtube channel, so if I am unable to go to class, I can still glean some of the effects at home.
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    Seeking Autumn Beauty

    Having children of varying ages, I have found it difficult to put in time to do nature walks and activities consistently. I don't like when we are not all together, but I know I eventually have to allow for the older ones to break off on their own. But is that when I should do nature walks? And then I have a middle one: do I start letting her do her own thing, or keep her with my younger ones? I am also taking some online classes. Trying to fit everything in is hard. Is there a better time of day, as far as nature walks, during the fall and winter? My thought was the afternoon because it would be a little bit warmer. And then early in the Spring/Summer - Summer in the south starts in April and doesn't end till October.
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    A weekly co-op for K-3

    How do you all see the transition into the next level going? Do you have ideas about what you will do next or what you need to do now to prepare for what you children will do after K-3?
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    Family Reading Practices

    These stories were very helpful. Thank you for sharing them. As a mom sometimes I am doubtful I understand my sons enough. Men truly are different than women. Your account of the pull-up bar is similar to things I see in my sons sometimes. I agree that there is good fear, especially the "fear" of the Lord.
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    Family Reading Practices

    Do you think it is part of our responsibility to also teach our children what they ought to fear, or what they ought not to fear? I take my children to amusement parks and have them ride anything they are tall enough to ride. Not the whole time. But at least once. I want them to see they can face scary things and overcome their fear. My kids aren't completely fearful of going to the park or the rides. I can't get them on the kinds of rides that "drop". So I'm not advocating going completely against their level of ability. But there is so little in this world as compared to generations ago to help younger human beings grow into mature human beings who are courageous in the face of danger, or do their duty in the face of obstacles. It makes me think of Lewis' quote about purposefully finding opportunities for our children to see evil and see it overcome: “Since it is so likely that (children) will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage. Otherwise you are making their destiny not brighter but darker.” David Hicks infers in Norms and Nobility that we can't just read about virtue, we have to find ways to help our children practice for it. I am not saying I am doing the right thing, or that you are wrong at all. I'm just trying to figure out what it looks like in our culture and world to raise virtuous children who love what they ought to love and do what they ought to do, even if no one else is.
  23. I find it hard to assess if I am really doing what is best for my children academically. I can preach all day about the necessity to be the nurturer of their spiritual development and character, but the closer they get to sixteen, the more I fear what they will "do" as an adult, more that who they will become as persons. I do find it hard to actually accomplish all I would like to and what schools "seem" to accomplish. I know we ought to go deeper with books, so we ought to do fewer than what many scope and sequences cover, but I end up not doing a book, or covering what I think is too little. And as much opportunity as I have in homeschooling, I also am concerned I am not passing on a love for learning or for the Lord. There is a lot of uncertainty connected to keeping children at home.
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    How to mix in the baby

    I have seven children. My youngest is now eight years old, but I remember when my top three were doing school and I had a new baby. Trying to do school after no sleep, and the baby crying, or needing a diaper change, or a nap, or to eat - again - became overwhelming. This article, The Baby IS the Lesson , by Diane Hopkins, helped me gain some perspective. One of the things I came to terms with is: It's only one year. Maybe two. As in, in a year things will be totally different. The baby will be eating solid food, or able to feed her/himself crackers, entertain him/herself with a toy. Naptime can be 1-2 hours. The toddler will be able to color at the table for twenty minutes, sit and listen to a read-aloud. A lot can change for the better in a year, even six months. That helped me deal with whatever my present hardship seemed to be. Do you struggle with having a toddler or a baby and accomplishing school with older children? Or if you are working things out, what tips do you have for transitioning while raising babies and toddlers?
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    Family Reading Practices

    I am sure I have exposed my littles to things they may have not been ready for, but it was more important to me for us all to read or watch things together. We have read Gregor the Underlander together, N.D. Wilson's Dragon Tooth series, Jane Eyre, To Kill a Mockingbird. We watched all the Harry Potters, we watched Lord of the Rings, but I would start the third movie after the choking scene. For me that was too intense because it was a man choking his cousin for a ring. My older children could ponder the causes and effects of that, but my concern was my younger children would internalize it. The orc-killing and wild men of the west come across as good guy/bad guy. But like I said, I know there's an argument to be had whether it is more beneficial for us to watch all together or not. I am not saying I never watch something with my older children, or that my young children never watch something without my older ones, but I try to make it so that we are reading and watching things together. My older ones do have their own books they read. I guess thinking about what is the purpose of your reading time can help you decide your material and whether to make it for the whole family or maturity-related.