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Mortimer Adler (and Susan Weis Bauer) recommend reading a book through three times before fully forming your thoughts on the book. Joshua Gibbs lesson plans consists mostly of "Read and Discuss" even if that reading is only ten words. My question is are these methods at odds with each other? Should we discuss whether Odysseus is a hero before we know what he does to the suitors? Is the Adler method practical for a school, even a Classical one. Thank you in advance.